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Quackometer silenced!

Posted by gimpy on February 18, 2008

I have a confession to make. I find the tawdry spectacle of the Diana death inquiry quite fascinating. On the one hand we have evidence from numerous witnesses which stands up to fiercely objective scrutiny and on the other we have the ridiculous conspiracy theories of a bereaved father. The believability of the claims from all sides is rigorously investigated and eventually, one hopes, the truth of the matter will become clear. Essential to this process is the fact that all arguments are subjected to equal scrutiny and assessed by a panel of jurors.

The bereaved father has a long history of writing letters to newspapers and hassling pillars of the establishment to support his lurid allegations. However far from being silenced by the sinister hand of the state he, as his is right, is allowed to make baseless claims with little fear of sanction. However, he is being derided as a clueless fantasist utterly bereft of reason and decorum over his beliefs and nobody in their right mind takes him seriously any more. Now imagine if he could censor these opinions and prevent free discussion purely by the act of penning an angry letter, allow his conspiracy theories to propagate unchallenged? Would we want to live in a society where emotional fantasists can silence criticism and delusional beliefs go unchecked?

Now what does this have to do with the Quackometer? Well the Quackometer’s spineless webhosts, Netcetera, have capitulated to the deranged ravings of Mr Obi, as referred to here, and have taken down the Quackometer. All of it. Without exception.

This is comparable to the ludicrous situation imagined above. Except it has actually happened. In response to a request by Le Canard Noir for a rational assessment of Mr Obi’s witterings they have struck down the Quackometer and issued this facile and foolish excuse.

Thanks for your comments. We do not wish to be in a position where we could be taken to court, and incur the loss of time and expense that would involve. Consequently Netcetera have decided to suspend the Quackometer website, with reference to our Acceptable Usage Policy, the first part of which is quoted below. The full policy can be found on our website www.netcetera.im/SiteInfo/AUP/

“Acceptable Usage Policy

This policy is subject to change, without alternate notice, so please check regularly for updates. This policy is in addition, and considered part of Netcetera’s Terms and Conditions.
Netcetera will be the sole arbiter as to what constitutes a violation of this provision.
1) Web Hosting
1.1) Netcetera reserves the right to suspend or cancel a customer’s access to any or all services provided by Netcetera, where Netcetera decides that the account has been inappropriately used. Netcetera reserves the right to refuse service and /or access to its servers to anyone.”

We will prevent public access to the site as of noon today 18th February 2008. You will be able to access the content to be able to transfer it to another host if you so wish.

We will hold the content available to you for 30 days, and then we will remove it from our servers.

Regards

I am deeply concerned that a reputable webhost will so easily capitulate to the demands of a fraudster who has been struck off his professional register by the GMC for unprofessional conduct. All the Quackometer has done is to aggregate several factual newspaper articles and wrapped it up with some analysis. There are no accusations made against Mr Obi that were not already in the public domain, no facts that were not proven, not to mention the fact that the offending article was reproduced dozens of times across the internet. Also, as Le Canard Noir says:

They have not said how my usage was unacceptable except that they are being inconvenienced by a deranged quack.

Can any quack with a grudge silence criticism just by being a bit of an arse? Now the issue of acceptable content on the internet and the role of webhosts and service providers in allowing access to it is a tricky moral and legal area but it is hard to see how taking down a site dedicated to exposing quackery, lies and half truths based on the rantings of an utterly discredited fraud is acceptable. If anything Netcetera should have been proud of Le Canard Noir’s attempts to make the world just that little bit more rational and just a little bit harder for quacks to deceive the public.

This isn’t the case of a credible individual holding a gun to the head of Netcetera in the form of a grievous and legitimate complaint it is a man in a chicken suit successfully robbing a bank while holding a giant inflatable banana and farting loudly.

*edited to fix wrong webhost, apologies to netcetra, slaps to netcetera*

16 Responses to “Quackometer silenced!”

  1. Steve Rolles Says:

    This is a total disgrace

    what should we do to support quackometer? how can we make netcetera change their policy? this is an absolutely terrible precedent.

  2. Andrew Taylor Says:

    I vote whenever we mention Netcetera we link to a page about this. It worked on Obi. Already a Google search for “netcetera hosts” will turn up a couple of similar things on the first page.

  3. Andy Lewis Says:

    For completeness, here is the letter I sent to Dave Boswell at Netcetera that prompted the above reply.

    This was sent on the 30th of January. It has taken nearly three weeks for the heros at Netcetera to respond.

    David,

    Thanks for getting back to me.

    I fully understand this is a difficult position for you. Netcetera want to get on with the business of web hosting rather than deal with rubbish like this. However, I feel that an important point is being missed. Obi made his claim of defamation without a shred of evidence to substantiate that. On your request, I asked for that evidence and you still asked me to take down the pages. I hope that as a service provider you do not feel that it is acceptable for third parties to demand the removal of your customers’ content without having to back up their demand with good reasons.

    We will not get the evidence required to substantiate Obi’s claims. You can see the level of Obi’s response here…

    http://www.professorjosephchikelueobi.com/

    We have now waited long enough for either Obi or his ‘legal advisor’ to respond in a meaningful and constructive manner. That has not happened, not will it happen because his case his utterly groundless and he has achieved what he wanted to do - take down those pages.

    I therefore believe that it is entirely justified to re-instate those pages and I intend to do so. I hope it will be with your consent.

    Regards,

  4. Netcetera are a pathetic, cretinous excuse for a webhost at Badchemist’s Blog Says:

    [...] Netcetera the ‘webhosts’ for the excellent Quackometer have bowed under the pressure of the Joseph Chikelue Obi and taken down the Quackometer site with immediate effect. Here we have the worst form of censorship. The Quackometer was one of the best resources around for the debunking of pseudoscience and because of a couple of quacks and charlatans complaining it has been removed. In both cases the complaints of defamation had no grounds, otherwise fellow bloggers, like myself, who mirrored the offending articles would probably be on the receiving end of legal letter by now. If Netcetera actually cared about their customers, or even had a backbone they would have read the offending pages, and those that followed, and realised that both the SoH and Obi were taking a speculative swipe at those who have criticised them. [...]

  5. Twonilblankblank · Netcetera bad, well done Positive Internet Says:

    [...] took a shit on it by caving in to spurious litigation. In my opinion, of course. Read all about it here.  Positive Internet came to the [...]

  6. Grumpy Bob Says:

    If you’re targeting netcetera, better make sure it is spelt right, unlike the original article (netcetra - http://netcetracom is a web hoster/designer in NJ, USA).

    Judging from this morning’s google searching, word is spreading.

    Robert

  7. Dr* T Says:

    Thinking Is Dangerous: Netcetera condemn themselves as pathetic caitiffs

  8. Ambrielle Says:

    Great post Gimpy. I was much struck by your analogy, especially since Al Fayed and Obi seem to have a very similar deluded, self-important, litigious thing going on.

  9. Homeopathic supporting MP David Tredinnick misleads Parliament and offers staggeringly dimwitted endorsements. « gimpy’s blog Says:

    [...] Quackometer silenced! [...]

  10. flammableflower Says:

    <a href=”http://flammableflower.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/netcetera-amaze-scientists/” title=”Netcetera Amaze Scientists…by proving to be even more spineless than jellyfish.”

  11. pv Says:

    It looks like Netcetera might be doing a bit of their own Google manipulation since, at time of writing, the link to this blog is 13th.

  12. Bill Says:

    Who will be next to be silenced?
    Thats what worries me.

  13. gimpy Says:

    Come on Bill I don’t think the words of Pastor Niemoller are pertinent yet. The Quackometer will be back.

  14. Nash Says:

    It’s on the Register

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/20/obi_quackomter_defamation_netcetera/

    So it could be on the BBC news in a few days as they seem to pick stuff up from the Register.

  15. drj11 Says:

    I recommend https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ who don’t do take-downs without proper paperwork (that is, a DMCA take-down notice for copyright infringement or a court-order for other things). That’s completely irrelevant to me, I use them because they cost me about 1 cent per month.

  16. Mike Says:

    Diana was killed.
    Homeopathy is bs.
    It’s alomost too late to fight back.
    The truth doesn’t matter anymore.
    They have won.

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