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	<title>Comments on: The Pills &#8216;n&#8217; Thrills &#38; Bellyaches of Patrick Holford</title>
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	<description>inane witterings and badscience</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gzdisumqr fgjy</title>
		<link>http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-pills-n-thrills-bellyaches-of-patrick-holford/#comment-2470</link>
		<dc:creator>gzdisumqr fgjy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doctorlimpy</title>
		<link>http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-pills-n-thrills-bellyaches-of-patrick-holford/#comment-2155</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorlimpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nash- By the way, 'hoe' is a derogatory word- but you already knew that.  

Are you at the same college as Gimpy then? Sounds like you are. Maybe you can fill me on what an FE college is and which one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nash- By the way, &#8216;hoe&#8217; is a derogatory word- but you already knew that.  </p>
<p>Are you at the same college as Gimpy then? Sounds like you are. Maybe you can fill me on what an FE college is and which one.</p>
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		<title>By: Nash</title>
		<link>http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-pills-n-thrills-bellyaches-of-patrick-holford/#comment-2153</link>
		<dc:creator>Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usual hoe response from Doctorlimpy. Attack the person rather than engage with the ideas.

For your information, FE colleges are for all intents and purposes private companies. The staff employed in them are not civil servants or local authority employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usual hoe response from Doctorlimpy. Attack the person rather than engage with the ideas.</p>
<p>For your information, FE colleges are for all intents and purposes private companies. The staff employed in them are not civil servants or local authority employees.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorlimpy</title>
		<link>http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-pills-n-thrills-bellyaches-of-patrick-holford/#comment-2152</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorlimpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is like a whole thesis or Journal article. You must have had a lot of time on your hands at the expense of the tax payer. Coffee time extended a wee bit was it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is like a whole thesis or Journal article. You must have had a lot of time on your hands at the expense of the tax payer. Coffee time extended a wee bit was it?</p>
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		<title>By: Acleron</title>
		<link>http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-pills-n-thrills-bellyaches-of-patrick-holford/#comment-2132</link>
		<dc:creator>Acleron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do admire you people who can take huge junks out of the woo at at a time. Please keep doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do admire you people who can take huge junks out of the woo at at a time. Please keep doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: pv</title>
		<link>http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-pills-n-thrills-bellyaches-of-patrick-holford/#comment-2129</link>
		<dc:creator>pv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;especially as it was only last September that he was offering &lt;b&gt;thinly veiled legal threats&lt;/b&gt; at Professor David Colquhoun for having the temerity to highlight inaccurate claims on vitamin C and AZT&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don't mean to derail here.
I know Ben Goldacre's R4 programmes were about the science, or rather the lack of it, behind nutritionists' claims. But I feel the facility with which all manner of altmeds and sCAMmers resort to legal process in order to hide the fact that their claims have no real evidential basis needs to be emphasised. There is a section of the public who unfortunately don't seem to set much store by scientific literacy, and are easily persuaded that a "nice", "honest" man, a "celebrity" like Mr Holford surely wouldn't abuse the legal process because he is an "expert".
The lack of credible evidence for product efficacy and the use of legal threats to hide the fact go hand in hand, in my view. One might even say that the legal threats are a part of the marketing strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>especially as it was only last September that he was offering <b>thinly veiled legal threats</b> at Professor David Colquhoun for having the temerity to highlight inaccurate claims on vitamin C and AZT</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to derail here.<br />
I know Ben Goldacre&#8217;s R4 programmes were about the science, or rather the lack of it, behind nutritionists&#8217; claims. But I feel the facility with which all manner of altmeds and sCAMmers resort to legal process in order to hide the fact that their claims have no real evidential basis needs to be emphasised. There is a section of the public who unfortunately don&#8217;t seem to set much store by scientific literacy, and are easily persuaded that a &#8220;nice&#8221;, &#8220;honest&#8221; man, a &#8220;celebrity&#8221; like Mr Holford surely wouldn&#8217;t abuse the legal process because he is an &#8220;expert&#8221;.<br />
The lack of credible evidence for product efficacy and the use of legal threats to hide the fact go hand in hand, in my view. One might even say that the legal threats are a part of the marketing strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Holford Responds to Radio 4 Programme and Misses the Point: Part 1 &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Holford Responds to Radio 4 Programme and Misses the Point: Part 1 &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For more on Holford, vitamin C, colds and HIV/AIDS, see Gimpy&#8217;s post on The Pills ‘n’ Thrills &#38; Bellyaches of Patrick Holford [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For more on Holford, vitamin C, colds and HIV/AIDS, see Gimpy&#8217;s post on The Pills ‘n’ Thrills &amp; Bellyaches of Patrick Holford [...]</p>
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