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Simon Jenkins has been wrong on viral epidemics before

Posted by gimpy on July 23, 2009

Here is a Times article from 1993 in which Simon Jenkins, currently offering dangerous advice on swine flu, suggests that HIV does not cause AIDS (Times archive, subscription needed).  Although I haven’t read the article and can’t comment on the content, a letter in Nature from a Haemotologist who did and who has is pretty damning.  I think it proves that over 15 years ago Jenkins was just as incapable of writing about science and medical matters as he is now.  So why do people let him?

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15 Responses to “Simon Jenkins has been wrong on viral epidemics before”

  1. Anthony said

    Now that is an embarassing.

  2. draust said

    Note the riposte from Sunday Times writer and science editor Neville Hodgkinson after Karpas’ letter. Hodgkinson became something of a favourite among the “HIV is not the cause of AIDS” gang – you can see a bibliography of his efforts on the AIDS denialist Virusmyth site
    here, including hotlinks to a couple of his articles. The Wikipedia AIDS denialism page brackets Hodgkinson along with American writer Celia Farber, which is pretty damning.

    The Sunset Times’ HIV/AIDS coverage in the early 90s has not stood the test of time well, to say the least. To quote the Wikipedia AIDS denalism page:

    In 1992–1993, The Sunday Times, where [Neville] Hodgkinson served as scientific editor, ran a series of articles arguing that the AIDS epidemic in Africa was a myth. These articles stressed (Peter] Duesberg’s claims and argued that antiviral therapy was ineffective, HIV testing unreliable, and that AIDS was not a threat to heterosexuals. The Sunday Times coverage was heavily criticized as slanted, misleading, and potentially dangerous; the scientific journal Nature took the unusual step of printing a 1993 editorial calling the paper’s coverage of HIV/AIDS “seriously mistaken, and probably disastrous.”

    The Wiki page cites a brief account of this that appeared in the New York Times, which is here.

  3. PJ said

    Jesus, perhaps what is most telling is that, having been so spectacularly wrong in the past, he was still arrogant enough to go and write something like that again!

  4. PJ said

    I’d love to see what he wrote – in this link I found:

    Jenkins criticized the Sunday Times for “going over the top” by responding to the Nature editorial with a banner headline proclaiming “Why We Won’t Be Silenced.” Jenkins also noted, however, that no causal chain connecting HIV to AIDS has been proved, that AIDS cases in Britain so far have been much fewer than predicted and largely confined to homosexuals and drug users, and that currently “the link between AIDS and HIV is, at the very least, being more widely questioned:” He thought that the “rubbishing” of leading American archskeptic Peter H. Duesberg was a denial of the scientific method and that the Sunday Times was right to give space to his arguments. Jenkins concluded that it was possible that the immense sums allocated for AIDS research had created a “money polluting professionalism.”

  5. Matt Volatile said

    Forward to MD @ Private Eye? They love this kind of stuff.

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  7. ella said

    Dr. Peter Duesberg a Philosopher, theologist? check your references Karpas and Gimpy too!

    quote from Karpas’s letter to the Times

    “Another incomprehensible argument by Jenkins against the role of HIV in AIDS is “Why after 10 years of intensive research are we no nearer to the answer?”. We have made considerable progress understanding the disease…no cure… But the same is true for common cold, various herpes infections, some major cancer diseases and multiple sclerosis..”

    Indeed this is true !! Many drugs but no cure, much expenditure little joy.

  8. Warhelmet said

    On the other hand, it is an old article. Not that I’ve read it. But I did read some of the stuff about the Andrew Neil period of the Sunday Times and how it captured the zeitgeist of the time, blah, blah. Poor people were to blame for their own misfortune, etc…

    Has Jenkins recanted?

    • gimpy said

      I would imagine Jenkins has recanted, if maybe only in private, his continued employment would suggest some degree of forgiveness. If anyone can find a public recantation I would love to see it though.

  9. Derrik said

    It’s fascinating how some people seem to regard opposition from scientists as proof that they are on to something. I guess it comes from dealing with politicians. Scientist says “Ah we thought of that criticism three years ago, here are the experiments that demonstraited it was not so, nice try though”. Denier says “You are trying to censor me”.

    I have modified Hodgkinson’s final paragraph for fun.

    I should like to add that my own doubts about the moon not being made of cheese have grown stronger over the 20 months since we first set out the “dissident” views, not least because of the unreasoning way mainstream science has reacted to the challenge, at first dismissive and then, when the “problem” refused to go away, openly censorious.

    • Warhelmet said

      Even more fascinating is that the media themselves that have originally created a mountain out of a mole hill. Also the lack of opposition can be seen as confirmation as well – the “scientists refuse to address Moon-Cheese concerns”.

    • Whoa whoa whoa. This is huge. And this clown got a Knighthood for services to journalism?

  10. p said

    hmmm. I cannot see the original page by Jenkins, but just remind me.

    Was that not the time the UK government was doing those iceberg adverts, you know, where AIDS was going to become a sexually transmitted disease for heterosexuals in the UK ?
    Was that not the time that government figures were predicting massive increases in AIDS deaths in britain, and particularly for heterosexuals ?

    Now clearly, neither of these things has happened, but that must be down to the iceberg adverts, right ?

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